1 00:00:07,309 --> 00:00:04,070 is this a major keynote yes this is Bob 2 00:00:10,129 --> 00:00:07,319 Rook a wpin radio in St Petersburg 3 00:00:11,629 --> 00:00:10,139 Florida I'm live on the air right now 4 00:00:13,610 --> 00:00:11,639 and the people out there are listening 5 00:00:17,150 --> 00:00:13,620 I've already told them I was calling you 6 00:00:19,609 --> 00:00:17,160 to uh and your capacity in nightcap how 7 00:00:23,090 --> 00:00:19,619 are you this morning sir fine thank you 8 00:00:26,090 --> 00:00:23,100 for calling is your uh family well yeah 9 00:00:27,230 --> 00:00:26,100 that's fine good I'm surprised to catch 10 00:00:28,910 --> 00:00:27,240 you there I understand that you've been 11 00:00:30,050 --> 00:00:28,920 pretty busy with lecture series around 12 00:00:33,229 --> 00:00:30,060 the country 13 00:00:35,569 --> 00:00:33,239 yes and some uh broadcasts and so on 14 00:00:37,610 --> 00:00:35,579 it's been a big outbreak of sightings as 15 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,620 you probably know I wanted to ask you 16 00:00:41,569 --> 00:00:40,079 about those most recent sightings now if 17 00:00:42,770 --> 00:00:41,579 you could give us a little idea on them 18 00:00:44,290 --> 00:00:42,780 and then we'll go a little bit further 19 00:00:47,389 --> 00:00:44,300 into nightcap 20 00:00:50,510 --> 00:00:47,399 well uh one important sighting took 21 00:00:52,610 --> 00:00:50,520 place down at the space agency's base at 22 00:00:56,689 --> 00:00:52,620 Wallops Island in Virginia 23 00:00:58,850 --> 00:00:56,699 where a strange object was seen flying 24 00:01:01,069 --> 00:00:58,860 over the area at very high speed now 25 00:01:04,189 --> 00:01:01,079 this was the principal witness in this 26 00:01:07,250 --> 00:01:04,199 case was Mr Dempsey Putin who is the 27 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:07,260 chief of satellite tracking at this base 28 00:01:13,789 --> 00:01:11,040 he saw this object and checked the time 29 00:01:16,969 --> 00:01:13,799 uh with another witness and they 30 00:01:18,170 --> 00:01:16,979 computed the speed at about 8 000 miles 31 00:01:19,910 --> 00:01:18,180 an hour 32 00:01:21,890 --> 00:01:19,920 this also brought out an earlier 33 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:21,900 sighting that had taken place in the 34 00:01:26,990 --> 00:01:24,479 area in October where an object could 35 00:01:29,510 --> 00:01:27,000 have been seen making a very sharp right 36 00:01:31,370 --> 00:01:29,520 angle turn at several thousand miles an 37 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:31,380 hour something is completely impossible 38 00:01:37,190 --> 00:01:34,560 for any type of missile or uh 39 00:01:41,090 --> 00:01:37,200 or Jeff that we have now this one case 40 00:01:43,850 --> 00:01:41,100 is not in it uh the uh excuse me was 41 00:01:45,710 --> 00:01:43,860 this at Wallops Island area yeah this is 42 00:01:48,109 --> 00:01:45,720 where they have all of the sophisticated 43 00:01:51,710 --> 00:01:48,119 equipment to do this type of tracking 44 00:01:54,170 --> 00:01:51,720 that's right it's a it's a very uh 45 00:01:55,789 --> 00:01:54,180 up-to-date space agency station now 46 00:01:58,910 --> 00:01:55,799 that's where they released the echo 47 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:58,920 balloons and so on was this a visual 48 00:02:04,310 --> 00:02:01,200 sighting as well as the electronic uh 49 00:02:06,830 --> 00:02:04,320 siding uh the visual sighting uh yes by 50 00:02:08,930 --> 00:02:06,840 Mr Bruton and several other Witnesses 51 00:02:11,330 --> 00:02:08,940 are in the area and was it tracked 52 00:02:14,270 --> 00:02:11,340 electronically no it was not tracked 53 00:02:17,089 --> 00:02:14,280 laterically it came in so fast 54 00:02:19,130 --> 00:02:17,099 before they had time usually those 55 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:19,140 things have to be set up uh before they 56 00:02:23,449 --> 00:02:20,760 had time to get aligned on it where it 57 00:02:26,570 --> 00:02:23,459 was gone right however there was another 58 00:02:29,690 --> 00:02:26,580 one that was tracked by radar Navy 59 00:02:32,690 --> 00:02:29,700 operators at Patuxent Maryland that's 60 00:02:35,449 --> 00:02:32,700 the big Navy test center well they 61 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:35,459 tracked two UFOs maneuvering some 62 00:02:40,250 --> 00:02:37,440 distance from the station and one of 63 00:02:43,250 --> 00:02:40,260 these who seemed to make a 160 degree 64 00:02:44,930 --> 00:02:43,260 turn while it was traveling almost 5 000 65 00:02:47,150 --> 00:02:44,940 miles an hour and that's again to 66 00:02:49,130 --> 00:02:47,160 something completely beyond our our 67 00:02:51,410 --> 00:02:49,140 present knowledge that's a pretty fast 68 00:02:54,110 --> 00:02:51,420 turn right 69 00:02:57,710 --> 00:02:54,120 um in another case the captain of an 70 00:03:00,229 --> 00:02:57,720 Electra for engine transport 71 00:03:02,449 --> 00:03:00,239 reported to us and he revealed his name 72 00:03:05,390 --> 00:03:02,459 but he's a veteran he's been flying 25 73 00:03:08,089 --> 00:03:05,400 years that he was making an approach to 74 00:03:09,589 --> 00:03:08,099 the Washington area a huge object came 75 00:03:10,850 --> 00:03:09,599 straight toward them and he thought they 76 00:03:13,790 --> 00:03:10,860 were going to collide they were just 77 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:13,800 about to bank very hastily away when the 78 00:03:18,589 --> 00:03:15,840 object reverse course and disappeared 79 00:03:21,229 --> 00:03:18,599 and he estimated its speed of departure 80 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:21,239 and the realm of two to three thousand 81 00:03:26,509 --> 00:03:24,239 miles an hour could he estimate his uh 82 00:03:29,930 --> 00:03:26,519 closing speed to get an estimate on the 83 00:03:33,890 --> 00:03:29,940 craft speed coming toward him well he 84 00:03:35,750 --> 00:03:33,900 was coming in at uh 230 he had throttled 85 00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:35,760 down for his Final Approach 86 00:03:41,690 --> 00:03:39,540 and this was the Auntie came in and 87 00:03:44,990 --> 00:03:41,700 matched his speed for a few moments and 88 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:45,000 turned straight toward him uh and as I 89 00:03:51,170 --> 00:03:47,040 say it's it frightened everybody in the 90 00:03:52,850 --> 00:03:51,180 cockpit the flight engineer and uh and 91 00:03:56,089 --> 00:03:52,860 then Justice Collision seemed almost 92 00:03:58,009 --> 00:03:56,099 inevitable by the thing reversed and 93 00:04:01,490 --> 00:03:58,019 disappeared at an absolutely incredible 94 00:04:04,430 --> 00:04:01,500 speed now this uh this uh aircraft was 95 00:04:06,050 --> 00:04:04,440 turning base leg and on an approach at 96 00:04:07,729 --> 00:04:06,060 the time of the sign I wasn't on the 97 00:04:10,250 --> 00:04:07,739 space flag it was coming in over 98 00:04:13,850 --> 00:04:10,260 Riverdale and uh 99 00:04:15,710 --> 00:04:13,860 it uh I have all that report filed but 100 00:04:19,009 --> 00:04:15,720 here but uh I don't have all the details 101 00:04:22,250 --> 00:04:19,019 at the moment all I know is he was at 6 102 00:04:26,450 --> 00:04:22,260 000 feet he had been holding and he was 103 00:04:29,990 --> 00:04:26,460 uh coming in to begin his procedure uh 104 00:04:32,510 --> 00:04:30,000 when his object appeared I see and uh 105 00:04:33,650 --> 00:04:32,520 then there was another case 106 00:04:35,890 --> 00:04:33,660 um where 107 00:04:37,850 --> 00:04:35,900 a government official and I can't 108 00:04:41,210 --> 00:04:37,860 identify him any further than that 109 00:04:43,730 --> 00:04:41,220 because his his superiors told him not 110 00:04:48,170 --> 00:04:43,740 to reveal the name of the agency or his 111 00:04:50,810 --> 00:04:48,180 name but uh this is confirmed he was all 112 00:04:53,810 --> 00:04:50,820 official Duty in the Northwest part of 113 00:04:56,689 --> 00:04:53,820 the United States and a desk about 30 to 114 00:04:59,450 --> 00:04:56,699 40 feet in diameter swooped down right 115 00:05:02,030 --> 00:04:59,460 in front of his car almost filled the 116 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:02,040 Road between the telegraph poles on the 117 00:05:06,530 --> 00:05:04,380 snow on both sides it came down straight 118 00:05:08,210 --> 00:05:06,540 at him and then shot up over the top and 119 00:05:10,129 --> 00:05:08,220 Harvard he jumped out of the car and 120 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:10,139 looked and he hovered above his car for 121 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:14,400 about a minute or two and then it tilted 122 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:16,800 up and took off at Speedy Cinema several 123 00:05:24,350 --> 00:05:21,060 times the the fastest jet speed now uh 124 00:05:26,450 --> 00:05:24,360 on all of these uh normal uh sightings 125 00:05:29,390 --> 00:05:26,460 now I heard you mentioned there tilted 126 00:05:33,469 --> 00:05:29,400 up have all of these indicated some 127 00:05:35,770 --> 00:05:33,479 incline of the vehicle to propel it in 128 00:05:38,510 --> 00:05:35,780 other words rather than staying little 129 00:05:41,210 --> 00:05:38,520 they've all inclined to some extent to 130 00:05:44,270 --> 00:05:41,220 take off well uh not necessarily but 131 00:05:46,370 --> 00:05:44,280 quite quite often you will where these 132 00:05:49,670 --> 00:05:46,380 dicks are saying there will be a report 133 00:05:51,170 --> 00:05:49,680 of us building up uh for a very steep 134 00:05:53,090 --> 00:05:51,180 crime although some of them have been 135 00:05:56,510 --> 00:05:53,100 seen to rise almost vertically without 136 00:05:58,249 --> 00:05:56,520 tilting uh there is it is now fairly 137 00:06:00,409 --> 00:05:58,259 well uh certain that these things 138 00:06:02,870 --> 00:06:00,419 operate with the Revolutionary type of 139 00:06:04,909 --> 00:06:02,880 propulsion involving an artificial 140 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:04,919 gravity field I mean they simply could 141 00:06:11,029 --> 00:06:07,800 not maneuver in our atmosphere several 142 00:06:13,790 --> 00:06:11,039 thousand miles an hour if they had uh if 143 00:06:15,770 --> 00:06:13,800 they were ordinary uh Vehicles because 144 00:06:17,930 --> 00:06:15,780 it would burn up from friction then they 145 00:06:20,090 --> 00:06:17,940 would cause Sonic booms it would be 146 00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:20,100 heard all over the country right I can 147 00:06:26,270 --> 00:06:24,000 see that uh now these are uh you say 148 00:06:29,330 --> 00:06:26,280 this is a rash of new sightings now have 149 00:06:31,309 --> 00:06:29,340 these normally uh been in bunches type 150 00:06:32,629 --> 00:06:31,319 of thing uh your sightings may be 151 00:06:34,189 --> 00:06:32,639 dribble for a while and then all of a 152 00:06:36,590 --> 00:06:34,199 sudden you'll have a quite a few and 153 00:06:38,930 --> 00:06:36,600 then they'll slack off a bit well there 154 00:06:40,430 --> 00:06:38,940 there are always sightings even when in 155 00:06:42,890 --> 00:06:40,440 the period that you might call a roll 156 00:06:45,230 --> 00:06:42,900 right there are some sizes come in and 157 00:06:47,689 --> 00:06:45,240 you're never sure whether it's a real 158 00:06:50,230 --> 00:06:47,699 law because the military now keeps a 159 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:50,240 very tight lit on this but they tried to 160 00:06:55,129 --> 00:06:53,340 occasionally as this Navy case uh 161 00:06:57,409 --> 00:06:55,139 something leaks out 162 00:06:59,950 --> 00:06:57,419 but the Air Force has a regulation the 163 00:07:02,170 --> 00:06:59,960 Air Force regulation 200-2 which 164 00:07:04,550 --> 00:07:02,180 prohibits anyone in the Air Force from 165 00:07:06,890 --> 00:07:04,560 revealing these things and discussing 166 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:06,900 them with the public or the Press uh 167 00:07:11,870 --> 00:07:08,400 without permission and a special 168 00:07:13,790 --> 00:07:11,880 direction to do it so uh there are a lot 169 00:07:16,550 --> 00:07:13,800 of societies that we know go on for 170 00:07:18,529 --> 00:07:16,560 instance jet chases they just uh 171 00:07:21,589 --> 00:07:18,539 whatever one of these things appears or 172 00:07:23,749 --> 00:07:21,599 is picked up on radar it's mandatory 173 00:07:27,290 --> 00:07:23,759 that the Air Force defense Jets 174 00:07:29,689 --> 00:07:27,300 immediately take off and try to identify 175 00:07:32,510 --> 00:07:29,699 the thing and bring it down 176 00:07:33,950 --> 00:07:32,520 because so far as we know no jet has 177 00:07:35,390 --> 00:07:33,960 ever been able to bring down one of 178 00:07:38,749 --> 00:07:35,400 these odds because it's just simply too 179 00:07:40,730 --> 00:07:38,759 fast and they can outmaneuver anything 180 00:07:43,189 --> 00:07:40,740 that we have do I understand that there 181 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:43,199 has been some jets that have uh have 182 00:07:48,650 --> 00:07:45,599 caught up to these though and that uh 183 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:48,660 that we've not heard of these Jets again 184 00:07:56,330 --> 00:07:52,560 well yes it was one case uh for an f-89 185 00:07:59,809 --> 00:07:56,340 a two-man Jet Pilot radar officer 186 00:08:02,510 --> 00:07:59,819 chased one of these objects for about uh 187 00:08:05,029 --> 00:08:02,520 18 minutes uh they swung out from the 188 00:08:07,070 --> 00:08:05,039 suit loss over Lake Superior and they 189 00:08:09,890 --> 00:08:07,080 were being watched by ground radar Air 190 00:08:14,089 --> 00:08:09,900 Force ground radar they the greater men 191 00:08:15,770 --> 00:08:14,099 saw this object and the Jet f-89 merge 192 00:08:17,930 --> 00:08:15,780 on their scope 193 00:08:20,029 --> 00:08:17,940 and but no Mayday call from the plane 194 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:20,039 and there was no answer when they called 195 00:08:24,830 --> 00:08:23,160 it maybe for 48 hours the our air force 196 00:08:26,689 --> 00:08:24,840 and the Canadian Air Force and some 197 00:08:29,770 --> 00:08:26,699 surface vessel searched to a very wide 198 00:08:35,990 --> 00:08:33,170 and nothing in the wildflick not a lot 199 00:08:38,209 --> 00:08:36,000 of trade no uh major Keel uh I 200 00:08:41,209 --> 00:08:38,219 understand that you are the uh is a 201 00:08:44,449 --> 00:08:41,219 chairman uh what a director director of 202 00:08:48,050 --> 00:08:44,459 nightcap which would be uh National 203 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:48,060 investigation committee for uh aerial 204 00:08:53,449 --> 00:08:50,640 phenomena is that a try basically it now 205 00:08:54,889 --> 00:08:53,459 what is nightcap's basic purpose could 206 00:08:56,570 --> 00:08:54,899 we condense it pretty quick I know 207 00:08:59,329 --> 00:08:56,580 there's a lot to it but I wonder if you 208 00:09:00,829 --> 00:08:59,339 could give me a condensed uh 209 00:09:03,650 --> 00:09:00,839 [\h__\h] has been occurring on the 210 00:09:06,050 --> 00:09:03,660 investigation for eight years we have 211 00:09:08,329 --> 00:09:06,060 military Aviation Space experts and all 212 00:09:11,150 --> 00:09:08,339 the other type of experts we need to 213 00:09:13,430 --> 00:09:11,160 evaluate cases we get all the 214 00:09:15,829 --> 00:09:13,440 information we can verify or discard the 215 00:09:18,230 --> 00:09:15,839 report then it's evaluated by our 216 00:09:20,930 --> 00:09:18,240 experts and we announce the conclusion 217 00:09:23,170 --> 00:09:20,940 if we can and we also are trying to 218 00:09:25,250 --> 00:09:23,180 break what we consider dangerous secrecy 219 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:25,260 now this is done 220 00:09:30,410 --> 00:09:27,660 who are board of directors and 221 00:09:32,690 --> 00:09:30,420 scientific and Technical advisors and 222 00:09:34,370 --> 00:09:32,700 incidentally if anyone has any report 223 00:09:36,170 --> 00:09:34,380 which has not been made public and at 224 00:09:38,269 --> 00:09:36,180 least to give it to us either openly or 225 00:09:40,550 --> 00:09:38,279 confidentially or they want any other 226 00:09:44,090 --> 00:09:40,560 information I wish they would write to 227 00:09:47,210 --> 00:09:44,100 us at nightcap 1536 Connecticut Avenue 228 00:09:49,370 --> 00:09:47,220 in Washington but we had some very very 229 00:09:51,710 --> 00:09:49,380 powerful cases sent To Us by simply 230 00:09:54,650 --> 00:09:51,720 asking for them in that way 231 00:09:57,829 --> 00:09:54,660 I see now uh did I understand that 232 00:10:01,610 --> 00:09:57,839 you're pushing for open investigation 233 00:10:04,250 --> 00:10:01,620 of the UFOs or is it opening of the 234 00:10:06,290 --> 00:10:04,260 files for information that's better you 235 00:10:08,870 --> 00:10:06,300 don't need to open Air Force files we we 236 00:10:10,790 --> 00:10:08,880 have duplicates of hundreds of Air Force 237 00:10:14,030 --> 00:10:10,800 cases that we know exactly what they 238 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:14,040 have uh what we've what we want to do is 239 00:10:18,829 --> 00:10:16,560 to have the secrecy ended the person 240 00:10:20,990 --> 00:10:18,839 said to end the danger of accidental War 241 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:21,000 several times the Strategic Air Command 242 00:10:27,110 --> 00:10:24,120 has launched bombers from the radar 243 00:10:29,570 --> 00:10:27,120 people picked up UFOs and thought they 244 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:29,580 might be a secret Soviet attack now of 245 00:10:33,350 --> 00:10:31,080 course they recall the bombers they 246 00:10:36,530 --> 00:10:33,360 found out the error but this could lead 247 00:10:38,810 --> 00:10:36,540 to uh accidental war and then there's 248 00:10:41,690 --> 00:10:38,820 these are on the airlines of over 50 249 00:10:44,329 --> 00:10:41,700 passengers have been injured in at least 250 00:10:46,670 --> 00:10:44,339 three different cases where policies are 251 00:10:48,350 --> 00:10:46,680 dived under one of these objects resumed 252 00:10:49,730 --> 00:10:48,360 to avoid the pollution when there's 253 00:10:52,250 --> 00:10:49,740 something obviously came too close to 254 00:10:55,610 --> 00:10:52,260 them so it's time for this thing to be 255 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:55,620 out in the open and stop ridicuing it 256 00:11:00,350 --> 00:10:58,079 and try to tell people what to expect 257 00:11:03,710 --> 00:11:00,360 and particularly Pilots what to be 258 00:11:06,889 --> 00:11:03,720 prepared for now can you uh give me your 259 00:11:10,430 --> 00:11:06,899 impression of UFOs in other words have 260 00:11:13,910 --> 00:11:10,440 you come up with a a sound idea or basic 261 00:11:17,329 --> 00:11:13,920 premise as to what uh these visual 262 00:11:19,310 --> 00:11:17,339 sightings are yes we in fact we parallel 263 00:11:22,430 --> 00:11:19,320 the Air Force top secret conclusion 264 00:11:24,110 --> 00:11:22,440 which we know about because one of the 265 00:11:25,970 --> 00:11:24,120 one of the former officials on the 266 00:11:27,530 --> 00:11:25,980 project is one of our Board of Governors 267 00:11:29,690 --> 00:11:27,540 uh 268 00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:29,700 we believe we have concluded after 269 00:11:34,970 --> 00:11:32,100 examining several thousand reports 270 00:11:37,250 --> 00:11:34,980 including Air Force reports so these 271 00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:37,260 objects the majority of them are disk 272 00:11:42,530 --> 00:11:40,320 shaped devices apparently metallic 273 00:11:45,590 --> 00:11:42,540 uh with a thickness at the center of 274 00:11:47,449 --> 00:11:45,600 about one-tenth of their diameter that 275 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:47,459 they are they are capable of 276 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:50,220 revolutionary speeds and maneuvers 277 00:11:54,410 --> 00:11:52,320 uh they're obviously so Superior to 278 00:11:56,269 --> 00:11:54,420 anything that we are even dreaming about 279 00:11:58,430 --> 00:11:56,279 that they must come from some more 280 00:12:01,430 --> 00:11:58,440 advanced civilization we don't know 281 00:12:03,290 --> 00:12:01,440 where they may be and probably are 282 00:12:05,990 --> 00:12:03,300 operating from a base 283 00:12:07,490 --> 00:12:06,000 on some planet in our galaxy or possibly 284 00:12:10,850 --> 00:12:07,500 from The Other Side of the Moon that's 285 00:12:15,110 --> 00:12:10,860 been suggested by a number of scientists 286 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:15,120 I see so then you do give these uh 287 00:12:22,130 --> 00:12:18,480 Credence as to being objects uh material 288 00:12:26,210 --> 00:12:22,140 objects being operated by a intelligence 289 00:12:28,910 --> 00:12:26,220 and also of not being within this uh uh 290 00:12:31,069 --> 00:12:28,920 sphere here that's right that's exactly